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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://grandich.agoracom.com/2009/07/update-1130am-dst/comment-page-1/#comment-8286</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timmins and HTD

Peter

I own Timmins as well and a about even now. I am thinking of adding if it gets any lower. Thoughts anyone?

Also, with the recent run up in treasuries I am thinking of adding to HTD here. Thoughts on that as well please.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timmins and HTD</p>
<p>Peter</p>
<p>I own Timmins as well and a about even now. I am thinking of adding if it gets any lower. Thoughts anyone?</p>
<p>Also, with the recent run up in treasuries I am thinking of adding to HTD here. Thoughts on that as well please.</p>
<p>Happy Sunday</p>
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		<title>By: Starquestor</title>
		<link>http://grandich.agoracom.com/2009/07/update-1130am-dst/comment-page-1/#comment-8274</link>
		<dc:creator>Starquestor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s what I think, American Woman, you got this from a friend of a friend who probably lives in California, but there&#039;s certainly nothing wrong with the formula of who pays and who gets.  

Is Joe Legal enslaved by the State?  It sure seems that way to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what I think, American Woman, you got this from a friend of a friend who probably lives in California, but there&#8217;s certainly nothing wrong with the formula of who pays and who gets.  </p>
<p>Is Joe Legal enslaved by the State?  It sure seems that way to me.</p>
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		<title>By: David A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>David A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 02:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like Joe Legal better get a cheaper place to rent or he is 
going to go real broke.

Sorry but this sounds like you heard this from a friends friend who 
told your friend.

where did you get this information?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like Joe Legal better get a cheaper place to rent or he is<br />
going to go real broke.</p>
<p>Sorry but this sounds like you heard this from a friends friend who<br />
told your friend.</p>
<p>where did you get this information?</p>
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		<title>By: American Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>American Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DON&#039;T TELL ME THAT YOU&#039;RE CELEBRATING &#039;LIBERTY&#039; and &#039;FREEDOM&#039; ON JULY 4TH !!  
YOU SHOULD BE MOURNING FOR THE ENSLAVEMENT OF OUR FELLOW AMERICANS AND DESCENDENTS.  YOU WANT TO CELEBRATE? .....WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE FELLOW AMERICANS? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR FREEDOM IN YOUR LIFETIME ? WILL YOU EVER PROTEST?  

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Alive and growing in every state... Especially California ...You Wonder Why We&#039;re Broke?!   
 
 Joe Legal vs. Joe Illegal
 
Here is an example of why hiring illegal aliens is not economically productive for the State of California...

You have 2 families...&quot;Joe Legal&quot; and &quot;Jose Illegal&quot;. Both families have 2 parents, 2 children and live in California. 

&quot;Joe Legal&quot; works in construction, has a Social Security Number, and makes $25.00 per hour with payroll taxes deducted....&quot;Jose Illegal&quot; also works in construction, has &quot;NO&quot; Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash &quot;under the table&quot;. 

Joe Legal...$25.00 per hour x 40 hours $1000.00 per week, $52,000 per year. Now take 30% away for state federal tax. Joe Legal now has $31,231.00.
 
Jose Illegal....$15.00 per hour x 40 hours $600.00 per week, $31,200.00 
per year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes... Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00 
 
Joe Legal pays Medical and Dental Insurance with limited coverage 
$1000.00 per month, $12,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $19,231.00 
 
Jose Illegal has full Medical and Dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00 
 
Joe Legal makes too much money is not eligible for Food Stamps or welfare 
Joe Legal pays for food $1,000.00 per month, $12,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $ 7,231.00 
 
Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for Food Stamps and Welfare.Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00 
 
Joe Legal pays rent of $1,000.00 per month, $12,000.00 per year. Joe Legal is now in the hole minus (-) $4,769.00 
 
Jose Illegal receives a $500 per month Federal rent subsidy. Jose Illegal pays rent 
$500.00 per month, $6,000.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $25,200.00 
 
Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work. 
 
Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family. 
 
Joe Legal&#039;s and Jose Illegal&#039;s children both attend the same school. Joe Legal pays for his children&#039;s lunches while Jose Illegal&#039;s children get a government sponsored lunch. 
 
Jose Illegal&#039;s children have an after school ESL program. Joe Legal&#039;s children go home.
 
Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same Police and Fire Services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.
 
Don&#039;t vote/support any politician that supports illegal aliens...  
 
It&#039;s time to take a stand for America and Americans!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DON&#8217;T TELL ME THAT YOU&#8217;RE CELEBRATING &#8216;LIBERTY&#8217; and &#8216;FREEDOM&#8217; ON JULY 4TH !!<br />
YOU SHOULD BE MOURNING FOR THE ENSLAVEMENT OF OUR FELLOW AMERICANS AND DESCENDENTS.  YOU WANT TO CELEBRATE? &#8230;..WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE FELLOW AMERICANS? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR FREEDOM IN YOUR LIFETIME ? WILL YOU EVER PROTEST?  </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Alive and growing in every state&#8230; Especially California &#8230;You Wonder Why We&#8217;re Broke?!   </p>
<p> Joe Legal vs. Joe Illegal</p>
<p>Here is an example of why hiring illegal aliens is not economically productive for the State of California&#8230;</p>
<p>You have 2 families&#8230;&#8221;Joe Legal&#8221; and &#8220;Jose Illegal&#8221;. Both families have 2 parents, 2 children and live in California. </p>
<p>&#8220;Joe Legal&#8221; works in construction, has a Social Security Number, and makes $25.00 per hour with payroll taxes deducted&#8230;.&#8221;Jose Illegal&#8221; also works in construction, has &#8220;NO&#8221; Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash &#8220;under the table&#8221;. </p>
<p>Joe Legal&#8230;$25.00 per hour x 40 hours $1000.00 per week, $52,000 per year. Now take 30% away for state federal tax. Joe Legal now has $31,231.00.</p>
<p>Jose Illegal&#8230;.$15.00 per hour x 40 hours $600.00 per week, $31,200.00<br />
per year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes&#8230; Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00 </p>
<p>Joe Legal pays Medical and Dental Insurance with limited coverage<br />
$1000.00 per month, $12,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $19,231.00 </p>
<p>Jose Illegal has full Medical and Dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00 </p>
<p>Joe Legal makes too much money is not eligible for Food Stamps or welfare<br />
Joe Legal pays for food $1,000.00 per month, $12,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $ 7,231.00 </p>
<p>Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for Food Stamps and Welfare.Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00 </p>
<p>Joe Legal pays rent of $1,000.00 per month, $12,000.00 per year. Joe Legal is now in the hole minus (-) $4,769.00 </p>
<p>Jose Illegal receives a $500 per month Federal rent subsidy. Jose Illegal pays rent<br />
$500.00 per month, $6,000.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $25,200.00 </p>
<p>Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work. </p>
<p>Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family. </p>
<p>Joe Legal&#8217;s and Jose Illegal&#8217;s children both attend the same school. Joe Legal pays for his children&#8217;s lunches while Jose Illegal&#8217;s children get a government sponsored lunch. </p>
<p>Jose Illegal&#8217;s children have an after school ESL program. Joe Legal&#8217;s children go home.</p>
<p>Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same Police and Fire Services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t vote/support any politician that supports illegal aliens&#8230;  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to take a stand for America and Americans!</p>
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		<title>By: Gold Stock Trades</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gold Stock Trades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>China consistently is buying real assets...and I agree with Peter that gold has resistance at $940 but now is a great time to get into some mining companies way undervalued.

Check out my post &lt;a href=&quot;http://goldstocktrades.wordpress.com/2009/07/03/big-buy-from-china-china-buying-teck-cominco-tck/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;China Buying Real Assets&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China consistently is buying real assets&#8230;and I agree with Peter that gold has resistance at $940 but now is a great time to get into some mining companies way undervalued.</p>
<p>Check out my post <a href="http://goldstocktrades.wordpress.com/2009/07/03/big-buy-from-china-china-buying-teck-cominco-tck/" rel="nofollow">China Buying Real Assets</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, thanks for all your hard work.  We really appreciate it.  
Also many of the bloggers are so interesting and informative - thank you all!!!!
I bought Timmins Gold on June 1, 2009 @ 0.56$ a share on a very credible breakout.  It went up to 0.78$ on three different days, then headed down.  Today it has broken a two week support of approximately 0.56$.  Has the airplane steered off the runway? (lol - in reference to posting by Peter Grandich at 1:39 PM on Monday, June 1st, 2009)   Being new in this business, I seek your opinion or that of any experienced investors on this blog - is Timmins Gold a HOLD, SELL, or BUY, and why?  I humbly thank you...R.C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, thanks for all your hard work.  We really appreciate it.<br />
Also many of the bloggers are so interesting and informative &#8211; thank you all!!!!<br />
I bought Timmins Gold on June 1, 2009 @ 0.56$ a share on a very credible breakout.  It went up to 0.78$ on three different days, then headed down.  Today it has broken a two week support of approximately 0.56$.  Has the airplane steered off the runway? (lol &#8211; in reference to posting by Peter Grandich at 1:39 PM on Monday, June 1st, 2009)   Being new in this business, I seek your opinion or that of any experienced investors on this blog &#8211; is Timmins Gold a HOLD, SELL, or BUY, and why?  I humbly thank you&#8230;R.C.</p>
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		<title>By: Amrit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really know what &quot;bearish call spreads&quot; are but can&#039;t one just short USO with stop loss at certain level? Is it any different from &quot;bearish call spreads&quot;?
For example I can short oil if it bounces close to $68 with a stop loss around $70.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really know what &#8220;bearish call spreads&#8221; are but can&#8217;t one just short USO with stop loss at certain level? Is it any different from &#8220;bearish call spreads&#8221;?<br />
For example I can short oil if it bounces close to $68 with a stop loss around $70.</p>
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