Below is word for word what transpired regarding my request to BNN yesterday. I want to thank BNN for being a true unbiased premier financial network. Canadians are truly blessed to have them on their television. Off to the links!
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My last email to BNN – I’m not surprised as Nadler is the little boy who has cried wolf and someone finally stood up and said liar, liar.
Thank you for the opportunity and tell Howard I love him (and still miss Jim O’Connell very much).
From: Zena Olijnyk [mailto:Zena.Olijnyk@ctv.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:32 AM
To: Grandich@agoracom.com
Subject: gold debate
Well, thank you for looking into you schedule to see if you accommodate us, but as you see from email from Jon Nadler below, I don’t think it’s going to happen. Too bad, it would have been very interesting.
From: Jon Nadler [mailto:jnadler@kitco.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:23 AM
To: Zena Olijnyk; Daniela Cambone
Subject: RE: request from BNN to have Jon Nadler return to BNN’s Headline to debate the topic of bull market for gold with Peter Grandich
Dear Zena,
Please inform Mr. Grandich that he will just have to debate my video image from last week’s interview in lieu of me live on the air. We will not give him the opportunity for the free publicity he so sorely craves from such a ‘debate’ – an exchange which would end up being little more than a position statement of one’s platforms and not a real debate.
I stand by what I told your audience, and remind them that I backed it up with accurate facts and figures on the air. But, as I previously said, I do not ‘debate’ bullion bulls. They have their opinions, I have mine. I am also sure that your audience is discerning enough to choose to form its own, based on the content your channel brings them.
If Mr. Grandich so fervently believes gold to be in a true bull market, well, he can just tell your audience why he believes that to be the undeniable case – and I suggest that he is also asked to provide an equal number of solid statistics on each count, as opposed to some personal conviction about why gold might “shoot to the moon” any day now.
Invitation declined. Off to travel. Will be back in Canada in January. Perhaps we can arrange our ‘normal’ market chat via Rob Graham.
Sincerely,
Jon Nadler Senior Analyst Kitco Metals Inc. North America US & Canada Toll Free: 1 (877) 839-8036 Websites: www.kitco.com and www.kitco.cn Blog: http://www.kitco.com/ind/index.html#nadler E-mail: jnadler@kitco.comFrom: Zena Olijnyk [mailto:Zena………
Sent: Tue 11/10/2009 8:11 AM
To: Daniela Cambone; Jon Nadler
Subject: request from BNN to have Jon Nadler return to BNN’s Headline to debate the topic of bull market for gold with Peter Grandich
Hell Daniela, I am a producer with BNN’s Headline with Howard Green. I am hoping you can help us arrange a frank and open discussion between Jon Nadler and Peter Grandich by making Mr. Nadler available. This comes following Mr. Nadler’s appearance on BNN last week discussing whether there is a bull market for gold and this open letter from Peter Grandich, which I assume you have seen. I think there are some very valid reasons that BNN viewers would want to see a debate between on this topic between Mr. Nadler and Mr. There are certainly a lot of people following Mr. Grandich’s blog would agree. If you could get back to me to discuss this, I’d very much appreciate it. While we are flexible in terms of timing, we could even do it as early as tomorrow on Headline, which airs 12:30 pm to 1 pm. I am also in touch with Mr. Grandich. Best regards, Zena
Zena Olijnyk
Chase Producer
Business News Network
416-957-8223
There are old Chinese saying, “lie 1000 times becomes truth”.
What Peter is doing is to stop those lyings.
Don’t miss it…This is not stupidity … SGGroup on this matter !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBv904ufzDs
Peter said:
“I issued my challenge because the party is arrogant, bombastic and quite frankly extremely nasty to the parties who he not only disagrees with, but have greatly outperformed him for years. ”
Actually, folks like JN are quite common in the world – especially where money is to be made. In fact, some interesting new research has been compiled after many decades of research on the subject, and has been briefly commented on. If you want to know more about such personality types, you can read about it here:
http://laura-knight-jadczyk.blogspot.com/2008/02/trick-of-psychopaths-trade-make-us.html
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Is-George-Bush-A-Psychopat-by-Dr–Kevin-Barrett–080602-915.html
Why are we giving Nadler(the BIGGEST LOSER in the world)a spot light or platform? We are wasting our time discussing him,insted we should be focusing on the markets and other important topics. This person is nothing but a distraction to ALL of US and there is nothing to be gained by dicusssing him.
George, please do everyone a favour and censor his name from this form.
Igore Nadler, he can’t help himself. He’s colour blind, he thinks blue is pink. Don’t waste your time.
LOL…Nadler’s nothing more than an agent for the bullion banks suppressing metal prices. Why does Kitco even hava him as a commentary. His articles are just filled with stupid analogies set out to confuse the average investor.
Dennis Gartman – on Bloomberg radio yesterday at least admitted he has been wrong on the market. He shorted it last month and now has gone neutral tiring of his lumps. He should have checked out this blog and then he would have known – as Peter says, stand aside!
CEF/GTU: Question for the board that seems puzzling to me. Obviously I am missing something. Both of these funds are administered in Canada, are closed end funds and do hold gold. Many “guru’s” feel they are safer than GLD/SLV for that very reason. However there is a difference in their premium to NAV (net asset value) which seems odd to me and make it seem like one should be buying GTU instead given that gold is moving much higher than silver. See below:
CEF Holds 60% gold and 40% silver; trades at around an 8% premium to NAV
GTU Holds 100% gold ; trades currently around a 4% premium
Any thoughts here from your bloggers in the know?
I don’t understand what the big deal is here……I’ve been following Nadler and Peter now for about 4 years. I simply do the opposite of what Nadler says. Listen to Peter…you will be rewarder handsomely!!!!
I was puzzled by this chap Nadler for a long time. I assume site like Kitco mandate would be to promote their precious metal products. Mr Nadler’s agenda is of different nature.
About one year ago I was annoyed with his continued gold poop and send him an email questioning his purpose on Kitco. I questioned if Kitco needs his presence. He did respond defending his position. If he invests based on what he decimates he must be broke and angry man.
How often does someone have to be wrong before you quit listening to them? Nadler has been calling a top to the gold bull market since 2001, when gold broke out above $300. Now at $1,100 and he still denies there is a bull market in gold???
Just because Nadler has a platform doesn’t mean that you have to pay attention. Ignore his BS and laugh all the way to the bank as we record 8 straight years of double-digit gains in the gold price.
“He will just have to debate my video image?” What an arrogant scumbag.
Peter: Who owns Kitco? I always thought it was Nadler.
Thank you Peter,
Jon had me fooled for the first year or so. I thought he was honest at first. Since then it has become very clear that isn’t likely. Furthermore, he does not provide any worthwhile info into the PM markets. I have told Kitco, that they will never get any business from me if they air that scumbag on their site. Their reply is that they try to provide balance. After some more thought, I realized it was likely much more profitable to have the inside track at the FED and to know when the takedowns are coming. It would be nice if someone who wasn’t simple and lazy like me, could create a Nadless chart. As in No Go Nads. Which would certainly show that his calls are in fact perfect for trading with. The more and louder he calls for a drop, the more likely the rise in PM. There are smart people who think that Kitco doesn’t have the PM they say they do. Which they may have sold to multiple trusting souls in a simple ponzi like scheme. I always took Nadler as proof of that. They both should be shunned, as should our Treasury and the FED. It would also be nice, if someone who wasn’t lazy and stupid like me, got really rich by starting a net charity that would pray for the death of illuminists, treasury chiefs, congressmen, central bankers and hedge fund managers. They would feature a nameless SCUMBAG OF THE DAY CARTOON that left just enough to the imagination. Then the donations would reveal who was the most hated and those scores could be shared where truth is still valued. They could list some of the most horrifying ways to die and donations could be targeted to both the perp and the method. At some point the 100th Monkey Effect would do kick in and rid the world of these psychopaths. I do not claim this idea and leave for free in the public domain, so that someone who is dying could safely pick it up. What would you pay for an opportunity to communicate your wishes to these fine folk? What a way to invest your FRN’s. They will never be prosecuted by the system, unless we come up with a new system of our own.
I like to keep my market reading balanced, ingesting articles, editorials and opinions on many sides of economic current affairs, but I must admit that I stopped reading Nadler years ago because he has, over time, rendered himself irrelevant.
His methodology is to isolate incomplete “facts” taken out of context to back up what has turned out to be consistently incorrect statements and prognostications. He is an otherwise bright guy who HAS to know he is so often wrong. Which raises other suspicions.
I suspect a hidden agenda somehow connected to the nefarious side of the gold cartel for whom he has many long and historied associations.
Then again, Jason (Nov 11, 3:11pm) could very well be right. He may just be an arrogant scumbag.
You guys gotta remember, Nadler is an ethnic Hungarian who was born in the land of goulash communism. Unlike Stalinists, Hitlerites, Maoists and others socialists who prefer to simply kill people to achieve their objectives, Nadler’s ilk plays a confidence game, flattering with erudite and clever prose laced with propaganda and flagrant lies. The guy suffers from major hubris and whallows in denial. After all, he saw first hand what government manipulation of markets did to the soviet block, yet continues to believe that all we have to do is wish for paper (which grows on trees) to become money and it will. Whee!!!!